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tomorrow, oscar pistorius will ask a judge to let him out on bail as he faces murdered charges on the death of his girlfriend, reeva steenkamp. more from pretoria. >> who would have thought a week ago i would be sitting here speaking about oscar pistorius facing murder charms. on tuesday, he will be facing a magistrate, and the state is asking not just that he has murder charges, but it's premeditated murder. we know his girlfriend, reeva steenkamp, was supposed to be at the house for the night. her overnight bag and ipad were there. and we know according to an official he shot her four times through a closed bathroom door. and afterward, he carried her down the stairs in his house.
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and she was still alive at that moment. there are also then those rumors that sensed there was some sort of bloodied cricket bat. what was that used for? we'll find out hopefully in court and we can't remember reeva steenkamp. gets buried tomorrow, her parents, only child, friends have to say good bye to a young woman who seemed so beautiful and bubbly, and, of course, everybody here, asking that same question. why? why did he do it? what was the motivation? no answers on that one either. we'll keep you posted. back to you. >> robyn, thank you very much. that's all for us tonight. "anderson cooper" starts now. there's breaking news tonight in the sandy hook massacre, a possible motive emerging, a terrible explanation
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of why adam lanza chose the target he did. and there is this, a face in the crowd when president obama was speaking out about kids being gunned down in chicago, just hours later, her young life was forever changed. also tonight, we've all been there, a crowded flight, a crying baby, but no matter how bad it gets who would ever, ever slap the baby? we'll show you the man who allegedly did and talk to the baby's parents. we begin with the breaking news. a chilling answer to why did adam lanza target sandy hook elementary school in newtown, connecticut? why that school to assault? law enforcement sources telling cbs news' bob orr tells us what it may lie overseas. brevick murdered 77 people in norway.
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just ahead, two criminologists on the mind of this killer and the one who may have tried to emulate him. we'll be joined by them shortly. let's get through some other important news. we begin with the explosive allegations against the united states senator and the kind of real, in-person, on-the-ground reporting that doesn't always get done in such cases. in other words, keeping them honest. the senator is new jersey democrat bob menendez who chairs the powerful foreign relations committee. the allegations made by a shadowy tipster concern a florida eye doctor friend of the senator's, a major campaign contributor who's being investigated by federal authorities. the explosive part involves this eye doctor's alleged role in hooking the teenager up with teenage prostitutes in the dominican republic. extraordinary charges, and they have been out there for months,
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that deserve extraordinary evidence. the question tonight, where is it? "360's" exclusive investigation starts in the dominican republic. drew griffin is ep couping them honest. >> reporter: a rundown brothel in santa domingo is hardly the place for serious journalism and yet here we are, knock on its door. hola. and finding yet another mysterious clue leading to another closed door. hello? hello? and that may be exactly what the person or persons behind these e-mails had in mind. could it be one big slander campaign aimed at baiting a scandal hungry press into saying or printing the name of u.s. senator bob menendez, teenage prostitution, and caribbean sex parties all in one sentence?
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after all, these allegations have been flatly refuted by the senator. >> this is incredible. >> reporter: and now the senator's dominican republic friends are trying to take that denial a step further. demanding a full investigation to find the actual culprit who has been spreading internet rumors for months. >> translator: this is an artificial ghost created especially in order to damage senator menendez, melgen, and myself. >> reporter: benecio castillo, a fourth generation attorney himself, has been named as a party to the, well, parties, and says enough is enough. >> translator: this crime has damaged me and my reputation and my honor. and that's why i have the right to ask an investigation to find out who is behind this crime. >> reporter: the e-mails alleging teenage sex parties and the senator began circulating months ago. even the fbi got ahold of them, but nothing could be confirmed. it appeared the matter was pretty much dropped until more
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e-mails began arriving. the author, someone calling himself peter williams even wrote to a cnn producer last month. i dare to respond only moved by seriousness of the media you represent, said the writer, as you can imagine, i'm deeply concerned about my security. cnn responded asking peter williams to meet us anywhere, even here in santa domingo to give us proof that any of his allegations were true. we have since sent six e-mails to p. williams. the response? silence. we tracked down the source of the e-mails through a technical school in santa domingo to this internet provider where we were promptly escorted into an office where the company denied the e-mail came from one of its customers. >> is there any way you would give us the background of this man? >> i cannot identify right now
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that name and also the ip address is not from here for us. >> reporter: the dominican republic's district attorney's office confirms to cnn the office is about to investigate the source of peter williams and his damaging e-mails. but so far, internet only and unproven scandal, however, has brought more scrutiny on the very real business dealings of one of senator menendez's closest friends. dr. salomon melgen is a big political donor to the senator, has given senator menendez private jet rides to the dominican republic, flights which the senator should have paid for, $58,000 worth. after the flights were publicly reported, menendez quickly said it was an oversight and has since paid back the south florida eye doctor, and there is this, a lucrative port security contract in the dominican republic. turns out the eye doctor and close friend of senator menendez has a controlling interest in a
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port security company standing to make tens of millions of dollars if the government here gives the go ahead for a deal. senator menendez aides acknowledge the senator had spoken to state department officials about the contract and in a senate hearing last july when his friend's contract was in doubt, menendez questioned why the u.s. government hadn't been more aggressive about port security in the dominican republic. critics of the deal, including the head of the american chamber of commerce in the dominican republic, question how a florida eye doctor with a powerful friend in the senate is suddenly involved in port security in the caribbean. >> i can't find anyone who is for the contract that doesn't have a direct financial interest in the contract. >> it's what we would call a cash cow. >> the mother of all cash cows, yeah. a sweet deal. >> reporter: but so far, none of that sweet deal is souring the reputation of senator menendez.
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he's just been named head of the senate foreign relations committee, and until and unless the mysterious peter williams emerges to prove any of his outrageous allegations, the senator's political future seems secure. >> and drew, you're joining us now. you couldn't get this tipster to meet you in person. others who have investigated him couldn't even get him on the phone. is it possible this is just one big hoax? there is no real peter williams? >> well, it seems very plausible there is no peter williams. the question, wolf, is who is behind this, and what are the actual facts behind the allegations, specifically the prostitution allegations that person has made? the dominican republic, the district attorney there, office said it's going to investigate, but we checked again today. there doesn't seem to be any hot investigation going on to find it, but i will point out pete williams, harrison pete williams, as you recall, wolf, involved in a scandal from the
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senate, another senator from new jersey. so this could all be just baiting the press to try to get us to investigate these cases. >> might be. all right, drew, hold on for a moment. i want to bring in the woman who first got those williams' e-mails. melanie saloon -- sloan, executive director of the group for responsibility and ethics. you said you and your organization were skeptical, but the more you dug, the more you thought perhaps there was merit to the allegations. explain what happened? >> this tipster, pete williams, first reached out to us back in april. and in his initial e-mail, he didn't mention anything about underaged prostitute, he mentioned prostitutes. shortly thereafter, he mentioned underaged prostitutes, but we were skeptical because he said he had known about these allegations, had evidence since as early as 2008. now we're talking it's the spring of 2012, shortly before senator menendez's re-election when the senate is still
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considered a tossup. so we thought the timing was suspicious. add to that, no matter how many e-mails we had back and forth, pete williams never agreed to speak to us by phone. he wouldn't talk to us. he wouldn't talk to other news organizations we brought in, and as it turns out he wouldn't talk to the fbi either. all of that combined leads to me saying this was a set-up, at least on that angle, of senator menendez. >> let me bring drew back in. drew, even if the prostitution allegations turn out to be false, there's still the matter of menendez allegedly steering that lucrative contract to his friend and donor. is it possible the contract could still go to the company his friend owns? >> wolf, i have to tell you, that contract is really now toxic politically speaking in the dominican republic. i don't see how it can get approved. it would be a contract between the government of the dominican republic and melgen, this big donor to the senator. the question is how much power does the senator wield down in the dr?
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no doubt about it, the senator was writing, was urging, was pushing for that contract, and for his friend, who has given him lots of money. that, in essence, and i think melanie would admit, is kind of icky business in washington, but it is business in washington. you know, politicians do favors for donors. if it was just that, i don't think we would be really talking about senator menendez. it's this allegation that's upping the ante with prostitutes and teenage sex that's getting all the buzz, and oh, by the way, he's also trying to help out with this business deal down there. >> and let me add -- >> i wanted to say, melanie, you point out that this story, this whole issue, really offers all of us a window into how washington really works. how so? >> well, it's so frequent that politicians are doing huge favors for their biggest donors. this is in fact why we have an earmark ban, because there was
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such a problem with appropriators using appropriations to give gifts to their largest campaign donors. here we have new ways members of congress are finding to use their influence to help their biggest donors. and we also have senator menendez reaching out to health and human services when there was a medicare problem that this melgen was facing, and he's under fbi investigation for medicare fraud. so there are some real problems here, but i wonder if there are many senators who could withstand this kind of scrutiny because i think so many politicians are, in fact, giving favors to campaign donors. it's exactly why americans are so cynical about their congress. >> melanie sloan, thank you very much. drew griffin, great reporting as usual. thanks to you as well. up next, we'll get back to the breaking news we're following this hour. a new theory on why the newtown, connecticut shooter targeted sandy hook elementary school. two prominent krimologicriminol
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help us get inside his twisted mind. later, why prosecutors could be about to upgrade murder charges against the blade runner, oscar pistorius, and what newly revealed crime scene evidence could say about his girlfriend's killing. crafted j. it's like a sexy sandwich. [ anouncer ] compare new griddle melts yourself. just $4.99. it's an epic breakfast sandwich.
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more now on our breaking news. law enforcement sources telling cbs's bob orr that adam lanza chose sandy hook elementary school because he wanted to maximize the death toll because they say he saw himself as being in competition with another mass murderer. joining us on the phone right now, northeastern criminologists, james allen fox
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and jack levin. they're co-authors of "extreme killing, understanding serial and mass murder." gentlemen, thanks for coming in. james fox, first to you, do the details about what he was doing with his time, who he idolized surprise you at all? or are they fairly typical for individuals like adam lanza? >> no, this doesn't surprise me at all. when the question was raised, why did he go to that school, the clear answer always was that he knew when he got there there would be a lot of victims under his gun. and he could hurt society in a most profound way. where else could he go where so many other people would be congregated? as far as him admiring another mass murderer, that's one of the problems when we constantly talk about records. the largest, the biggest, the worst. what that does is it challenges other people to try to break the record. after all, why do we keep records? records are there to be broken. i think we should downplay that aspect of shootings. >> fair point.
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jack levin, there's that breivik connection, if you will, the copycat factor doesn't necessarily lead someone to kill but it can suggest the timing and method. explain. >> it determines, for example, the type of weapon that is used. if one killer uses a semiautomatic weapon, the next one may use a semiautomatic rifle. brevic himself was inspired by ted kaczynski, the unabomber, and the columbine massacre in 1999 inspired a number of school shootings, not only in the united states, but also in canada, finland, and germany. so, you know, we can talk about the copycat factor, and it does contribute, but the causal factor for adam lanza was probably the same causal factor we find in most school shootings. he was bullied severely.
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brutally bullied when he was in elementary school at sandy hook. that is a much more important causal factor than the copycat influence. >> let me add this, wolf, in terms of how we talk about and how we cover these kinds of crimes. the big distinction between shedding light on a crime versus the spotlight on a criminal, all the publicity about sandy hook is fine. we want to know what happened and why it happened. but we sometimes cross that line when we focus so much on the perpetrator, making him larger than life, and making him a hero for a small group of like-minded people out there who would like to follow in his bloody footsteps. >> i just want to point out, we did reach out to the connecticut state police lieutenant paul vance, who is telling us this. on the record, on the cbs news report tonight, on this connection, alleged connection with norway, all of it is speculation, lieutenant vance says. there's no basis to the cbs story. we have not established a motive. it's inaccurate.
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i talked with cbs, told them we are dealing with a deceased shooter and trying to rebuild history. the cbs story is not accurate whatsoever. that's what he's saying on the record. he does say they're investigating all sorts of suggestions. they're looking at all sorts of potential motives right now. is it possible, james fox, that absorbing all this information, absorbing information about someone like brevic, for example, might actually lead someone to leave those fantasies in the realm of fantasy rather than act on them? >> not sure i understand what you're saying. by learning everything we can about him, would it satisfy someone? i doubt it. >> in other words, if someone was really obsessed with breivik and had a lot of fantasies, would he necessarily or she necessarily act out those fantasies and start killing people?
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>> all the other characters have be there. if someone is satisfied with their life, if they're mentally healthy and things are going well, sure, they can be fascinated with a mass murderer, but they're not going to follow in that person's footsteps. it would require someone who is isolated, angry, frustrated, and wants to wreak havoc on the world. if he starts being fascinated with a mass murderer who has highlighted the news, he might indeed use this as a precipitating event. you know, publicity doesn't make someone into a mass murder. it doesn't necessarily take another killer, an infamous killer, to set off this killer. there have been school shooters who were inspired by shakespeare, by short stories by stephen king. just about anything, a motion picture. and jamie is right. it's not the attention that we give these killers. it's the excessive attention. and what we should stop doing is making celebrities out of these monsters. they don't deserve it, but it's
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what they crave. they want the attention of the world on them. they want to be in the spotlight, and that's one thing we shouldn't do. and the spotlight also adds insult to injury when it comes to the victims and their families. >> i think a lot of people totally, totally agree with both of you guys. jack levin, james allen fox, thanks very much to both of you for joining us. as always, for more on this story, go to cnn.com. also tonight, just days ago, she took a stand against gun violence by standing with president obama in chicago. today, she's mourning the loss of her sister, killed in the city's epidemic of shootings. the latest on the tragedy straight ahead. and we also have new information coming in on that crippled carnival triumph cruise ship. what the u.s. coast guard is now saying about the cause of the fire that left thousands of passengers stranded at sea.
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if you have been following "ac 360's" reporting on all of the teenagers being murdered in chicago, you have already heard the words enough is enough. you hear it after each kid is gunned down, but we heard it the loudest after a 15-year-old girl, hadiya pendleton was shot dead just days after performing at the inauguration festivities for obama in washington. it grew so loud, president obama visited his home town to address this epidemic, to add his voice, and in the audience behind the president was 14-year-old destiny warren. she came because like so many others, she was tired of losing classmates, neighbors, friends. sadly though, tonight, destiny warren has lost far more. sadder still, she's not alone. in the world she lives in, the
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world she and so many others are trying hard to change, it seems tragically that enough is never enough. the report from ted rowlands. >> hey, chicago. >> no one listening to president obama had any reason to think they were anything but part of the solution to the problem of gun violence plaguing the city of chicago. least of all, destiny warren, but just a few hours later, she was involved in the worst possible way. when her sister, 18-year-old jenay was shot and killed in this alley in north chicago. >> all this gun violence is going on out here, you never think it will be your child. this is the hardest thing for me in my life. >> it hurt, because that was like my sister. we did everything together. we were supposed to go prom shopping the next morning. >> family members say jenay
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wasn't the intended target of the gunman. the same was apparently true in the shooting of hadiya pendleton. her parents attended that same speech in chicago. he said this to say about hadiya. >> what happened to hadiya is not unique. >> the pendletons say they're heartbroken to hear that another chicago family is now dealing with the death of a child. >> knowing how devastating this mother actually was because i can relate now, my heart is just totally -- i was devastated for her. >> the pendletons say they called the mcfarland family to offer their condolences and support. jenay mcfarland's parents said they talked about hadiya pendleton's murder days before she was killed. >> she said, mama, it's so sad. i feel so bad. every time she saw kids on tv, she's like, mama, i feel so bad for these people that have to leave their kids. >> jenay had a 3-month-old son
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who will now grow up without a mother. her parents say they'll raise him and try their best to keep him safe. sadly, jenay was not the only teenager to lose her life after the president' speech last week. 18-year-old francis cologne, who had just seen the president's helicopter flying over the city, was shot and killed at a chicago convenience store. she was an 18-year-old high school senior. her parents say she was headed to college and wanted to some day become a lawyer. ted rowlands, cnn, chicago. >> horrible situation in chicago right now. there's a lot more happening tonight. cnn's susan hendricks is joining us with a "360 bulletin." susan? the coast guard is blaming a fuel line leak for the fire that crippled the carnival triumph cruise ship. investigators say it started when the hose filled with oil came in contact with a hot surface. the fire disabled the ship and left passengers for five days with little power or plumbing. get ready to dig deeper into your wallet next time you stop to gas up your car. according to aaa, the average price for a gallon of regular
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unleaded is $3.73. and coveted pieces are being picked up from camelot. the estate of john f. kennedy's long time friend david powers went up for auction, one of the highlights, the former president's air force one bomber jacket seen here, it took in $630,000. wolf, back to you. >> susan, thanks. in raw politics, swift reaction to president obama's immigration proposal leaked over the week wend a path to eight-year permanent residency. immediately, republicans voiced opposition. senator marco rubio for one called the plan dead on arrival. so why the leak and why the backlash? here with the behind-the-scenes breakdown, chief white house correspondent jessica yellin.
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a lot of tough talk, jessica, from republicans. why exactly are they so mad about this? >> partly, wolf, because this is a surprise. the republicans didn't know the president was moving the white house bill on a separate track. they thought it was on deep freeze while the senate works out a compromise, so they think there's really only one reason the president would ready his own plan. he's preparing for the senate to fail, so they're mad. also, this is unusual. the obama white house rarely writes its own legislation. so this new strategy is unnerving some in both parties. now, the white house insists this is just a back-up plan, and they also tell me that they didn't leak the draft, and they think that the leak is unfortunate. >> were there really any surprises in this draft? no. great question and the answer is no surprises at all. the details from the leaked draft are no different from the plan posted on the white house website for the last two years. so then the question is, why are the republicans so outraged? part of the answer is it's just
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smart politics. to get something done on immigration, republicans need to distance themselves from the president, who you know is wildly unpopular with their base. so blasting this leak helps them get that distance. wolf? >> jessica, thank you. more on what authorities found at the blade runner crime scene. that's coming up. and music fans everywhere mourning the loss of singer mindy mccready. she rose to fame with her chart topping songs, but more recently, her personal problems took the spotlight. dr. drew pinsky joins us. [ anouncer ] ihop is in time square to compare
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crime and punishment. right now, olympian turned murder suspect oscar pistorius is sitting in a jail cell accused of killing his girlfriend, reeva steenkamp, but tomorrow, he'll return to court for a bail hearing where prosecutors say they intend to upgrade the charge to
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premeditated murder. police are refusing to talk about possible motives, but we may shed light on steenkamp's killing. robyn curnow has the latest. >> reporter: a beautiful girl, a beach and a reality tv show which shows reeva steenkamp's romantic side. >> you fall in love with being in love with love. >> reporter: she died just four days before it aired and it will continue to air on tv for nine weeks. meanwhile, her boyfriend oscar pistorius spent the past few days in this jail, charged with her murder. a charge strongly denied by pistorius and his family. this is his uncle flanked by his sister, who struggled to keep herself together as they make a brief statement to the media. >> as you can imagine, our entire family is devastated. we are in a state of total shock. >> reporter: investigators who have been
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combing through his home in this high-security complex are starting to piece together what they think happened early on valentine's day. it was in this bedroom that steenkamp may have expected to spend the night. according to an official close to the investigation, her overnight bag and an ipad was found in here. cnn was invited into the room in 2008 when she's pictures were taken, and we're told steenkamp was shot four times through a bathroom door and authorities say afterwards pistorius carried her down these stairs while she was still alive. questions still remain about the reports of a bloody cricket bat found at the scene. was it used to attack steenkamp, did she use it to protect herself, or did oscar use it to break down the door after the shooting. and there are reports that police have found steroids at the house, which authorities have not commented on to cnn. as the legal process now begins against the man known as blade runner, all of oscar's future races have been canceled. he was scheduled to run in australia, brazil, the u.s., the uk and russia.
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and while pistorius is in court on tuesday for a bail hearing, reeva's family said there will be a memorial service for her as producers of her reality show release this farewell from her, meant to be to the cast but now becomes her last words, her last good-bye. >> i take with me so many amazing memories, things that are in here and here that i'm going to treasure forever. i'm going to miss you all so much. i love you very, very much. >> let's dig deeper now. joining me from johannesburg, south africa, robyn curnow. there are reports that security guards found pistorius desperately trying to revive steenkamp, but what more can you tell us about that, robyn? >> there's still a lot of doubts as to what exactly happened that night. although that is indeed one of the reports, and i think there were quite a lot of people at one stage who made their way into that house. and we do know, according to
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officials close to the investigation, that oscar had carried her down those stairs. i have been in the house. they are white tiled stairs. we also know from other sources that there was a lot of blood. that's why police seem to think she know she was alive at that time. because she was bleeding so heavily as she was carrying her down. the thought he was trying to revive her at the bottom of the stairs, it's highly plausible, absolutely. >> the other question involves pistorius reportedly making a call at 4:00 a.m. on the night that steenkamp died. what do we know about that? what's that all about? >> well, i think the key thing is he seems to have made a number of phone calls, according to various local media reports. the one phone call he didn't make was to the police, which of course was quite crucial in my account with him in the court. this is another report in a local paper saying he made a call to his father at 3:00 in
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the morning. we also know that his friend had been called as well as perhaps a next door neighbor in this complex. so it seems that oscar was calling, who he called and when still uncertain. but really, we're only going to get a clear idea in the next day or two in this bail or bond hearing, as you say, and of course, the trial, which might only start taking place in a year's time. >> lots of unanswered questions in this mystery unfolding right now. thanks very much, robyn, for that. coming up, a man charged with assault after allegedly hitting a toddler on a plane. we'll hear from the little boy's parents who say the man called him a racial slur twice and hit him in the face. also ahead, the tragic death of country singer mindy mccready just a month after her boyfriend apparently committed suicide himself. mccready went on "celebrity rehab with dr. drew" to address her addiction issues. we'll get his thoughts on her death when "360" continues. [ lane ] are you growing old
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it's a case that's hard to believe. a man has been charged with assault for allegedly slapping a crying 19-month-old boy on a plane. the boy's mother said the man, joe rickey hundley called her adopted son a racial slur twice. we're going to hear from her in just a moment. hundley's lawyer said he's not a
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racist and he's being unfairly portrayed. gary tuchman has more. >> twinkle twinkle. >> reporter: jonah bennett is 19 months old. his parents say he's a happy toddler. but like many small children on planes, he was a bit unhappy. as this delta flight from minneapolis went to land in atlanta. he was traveling with his mom, jessica bennett, who tried to comfort him. >> jonah started to cry because the plane was going down. >> reporter: jonah's mom was sitting with her son in seat 28b. next to them in the window seat in 28a, was this man, joe rickey hundley of idaho. >> he was being rude and belligerent, and i felt very uncomfortable. >> reporter: the mom said she thought hundley had been drinking and in court documents, she said as jonah cried, he told her to shut that "n" word baby up. >> i couldn't believe he would say something like that to a baby or about a baby. >> reporter: then it allegedly got violent. hundley is accused of slapping jonah across the face with an open hand, scratching him below the eye. >> i felt like i was in a different world. i was shaking.
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>> reporter: hundley has been charged with assault on a minor, which carries a sentence of up to one year. an attorney for hundley says that the public shouldn't rush to judgment, telling cnn, this is a difficult situation but there are procedures to follow in the law that mr. hundley is cooperating with. his employer has heard enough. agc aerospace and defense says the allegations are offensive and disturbing. in a statement, the company said, as of sunday, the executive, hundley, is no longer employed with the company. >> i think i'll be replaying it the whole time. very traumatic. >> reporter: a court date for hundley, which will be in atlanta, has not yet been set. gary tuchman, cnn, atlanta. >> joining me now, jonah's parents, jessica and josh bennett. thanks very much for coming in. jessica, just take us through in your own words what happened. you say hundley was combative from the get-go. >> i boarded the plane early on just to get all of our things settled and everything. he was already on the plane,
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putting his luggage up. and i kind of introduced myself and said we were going to be sitting next to him. and right away, he was obviously not happy with that. and it just kind of set the mood from there for us. i could also smell alcohol on him heavily, and i could see in his eyes, they were glossed over, and he was clearly intoxicated before the flight took off. >> you actually spent the majority of the flight, i take it, standing in the back of the plane with your son, right? >> i did. he made me feel very uncomfortable at the beginning because he was complaining, saying that jonah was too big to be a lap baby, and he was turning my light on every time i would turn it off, so i just wanted to avoid anything else. so i just removed us from the situation, and we went and stood
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back by the bathrooms for a good duration of the flight. >> did you complain at any time to one of the flight attendants? if you did, did they offer you a different seat? >> nothing was offered, no, and i didn't exactly complain, but they had asked if the reason why i was back there was because of his behavior, and i said yes. >> tell us what happened when you returned to your seat near the end of the flight. >> the plane at this point is descending, and jonah is getting upset and crying. and he's getting more upset, and i can't soothe him, so he -- this was the first actual interaction he had with me because all of his comments so far were very passive, so he looked directly at me and shook his head and he was just disgusted. and that's when he said, "f'ing n." >> to your little baby? >> to my baby. >> and what happened after that?
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>> that's when i asked him, what did you say to me? and he -- it was like he had a fit of rage at this point and just sloppily fell onto my face and then pushed his mouth into my ear and said those words to me again but even louder and more hateful, so i immediately pushed him off of me. and i must have screamed because the passengers had reacted right away. and a few of them stood up. and at that point is when he hit jonah. >> what a horrible, horrible encounter. josh, what was your first reaction when you heard what happened to your wife and your son? >> my first reaction was, are they okay? and then it was immediately followed up by rage, anger, helplessness. >> it's a pretty shocking development. jessica, hundley's employer has now fired him. he's also charged with assault.
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could get up to a year prison sentence if guilty. would that be enough for you? >> no. no, it's not. >> what do you want? >> um, i -- i don't know. i mean, i just want the worst punishment that he can get, i want that. >> bottom line, how is jonah doing right now? >> good. he's a baby. he's resilient, and he's a happy, happy kid. he's definitely shown the affects of what happened. he's standoffish with people. that weekend, i was in town for a funeral for my aunt, and just being around family, even that he would recognize, he was very scared and all he wanted was me. so he was just very traumatized. >> well, he clearly is a sweet little boy, a nice little boy,
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and i'm really sorry for you, what happened on the flight, but thanks for sharing it. hopefully people will watch and will learn from this and hopefully this will never happen again. it should never happen to any mother and child on any flight ever. jessica and josh, thanks very much. >> thank you. >> thank you. coming up, the country singer mindy mccready is dead from an apparent suicide. she struggled with drug and alcohol addiction and mental health issues. she appeared on "celebrity rehab with dr. drew." i'll speak with drew. that's next.
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a tragic end to a tragic life for country singer mindy mccready. she was found dead on the porch of her home in arkansas from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. the same place where her boyfriend was found dead of an apparent suicide just a month ago. police say mccready also shot and killed her late boyfriend's dog before shooting herself. mccready leaves behind two sons. a 6-year-old and a 10-month-old. in her 37 years, mccready endured a lot of turbulence, drug and alcohol abuse, mental illness, domestic violence, and multiple suicide attempts. in the days before her death, mccready was reportedly working on a song called "i'll see you yesterday, " a song she didn't write but planned to turn into a video to help people deal with suicide. here's a bit of that song.
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♪ tomorrow's going to be the same ♪ ♪ see you yesterday ♪ let's get lost in our memories ♪ ♪ that's the safest place we can be ♪ >> mccready appeared on the vh1 show "celebrity rehab with dr. drew" seeking help for her addiction. dr. drew joins us now. thank you very much. you reached out to mindy mccready only a few weeks ago after her boyfriend's death. what was that conversation like? how was she doing at that point? >> she was shattered at that point. she had been doing well. she regained custody of her children. she had a stable relationship. things were improving. he died. at that point, things completely unraveled for her. the second hit is when she lost
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custody of the children and on the heels of that almost the suicidal gesture. the real tragedy in all of this, though, is when i spoke to her, she had profound fear of how people were going to judge and stigmatize her if she took care of herself and went to a hospital, which is very clear to me she needed. she ultimately agreed to do it, and she did, but left after only 24 hours. and my suspicion is she did so because of the fear of the stigma. and by the way, a lot of my conversation with her was about how to keep it confidential that she was entitled to confidential care, particularly in a mental health facility, and lo and behold, the press got out with it and attacked her. she left. she's dead because of it. >> this is a woman as you know for years had been facing an enormous amount of struggles and challenges. addiction, mental illness, all adding up, dr. drew. >> yes, absolutely. i hope people will learn from

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